My experiences with outsourcing to the Philippines

Written by Rasmus

Topics: Outsourcing

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I haven’t updated this blog for some time and it is basically because I have had trouble finding the right person (from the Philippines) to hire for the writer position.

The candidate I had chosen turned me down in the last minute, so I had to start out a round 2. Basically I had chosen someone with too much work on her hands, and she did not have the time to write a full e-book. So for round 2 of the hiring I looked for someone who had the time to begin with (and not the one with the most experience).

Regarding the title of this post and my experiences with outsourcing to the Philippines… I have had Ryan on board since 1. July (this year 2009) and he has done a good job. We have of course had a few misunderstandings, but not more than you would expect from working on the opposite side of the globe from each other. Lately he has been away and this was a big surprise to me as he forgot to tell me that he could not be reached by email (or I did not do a good enough job of telling him that I want to know these things).

So if I had to make a short list of stuff I have learned, it would probably look like the following:

Find your preferred way of communication

I have used email a lot and only called Ryan through Skype a few times, but a friend of mine who has just hired his sixth guy from the Philippines are doing daily Skype calls with all of them.

If you are going to use Skype in your daily communication remember the time difference. I could not maintain a daily skype call as I typically work for clients on location during my normal business hours, and I really don’t want to spend my evenings making Skype calls (also it is night in the Philippines when I get from work here in Denmark).

I told Ryan that I wanted daily status mails on how a task was progressing. He has not been super good at remembering this. So I have just created an account over at 14days where I expect everybody that I hire either full- or part-time to register their hours spent as well as a short description of the work.

Give good task descriptions and remember background information

When outsourcing it is extremely important to break down your work into manageable tasks that can easily be done. Personally I have used the format specified by Tim Ferris (I’m not completely sure that this is how he describes it in his book, but it is how I remember it :) ): What I want done, How I want it done and When I want it done.

Lately I have also begun to include background information describing Why I want it done. This sometimes help to give an overall scope of the task and keep a big focus while working on different small otherwise unrelated tasks.

Accept that there will be hick-ups along the way

Of course there will be times where you will misunderstand each other or you have not described a task well enough. The good thing is that you have the person full time and because of this have time to fix the task the right way. If you had just outsourced a project, on say elance, only to find out that some part of the project wasn’t done just right, you would have had to create a new project to have this fixed and perhaps tell yet another company about the project. I really like to have a person that I can have a history with.

Learn to identify processes

If there is anything that you can see you would like to have done again (and again), say setting up a wordpress blog, consider making your guy document the process. This way if you were to hire another employee (from the Philippines or not) you could use this process description (or perhaps screencast) to show him/her what you expect. Currently I do a lot of this for my webshop business Get A Shop, where I sell Magento webshops. We have to deliver the same product over and over again, so all processes have been documented on an intranet (a Google site).

And remember to have fun while outsourcing to the Philippines!

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  1. PÃ¥l says:

    Regarding elance, you can have a project divided into subparts with separate milestones. If one of the milestones turns out bad, or there are change requests in the project, you can make a new milestone with a payment attached to it. So: You do not have to make new projects all the time. Personally I now have one single project per assistant, and it runs continuously.

  2. PÃ¥l says:

    Btw. Thanks for the link to 14days. I can recommend http://www.clockingit.com for time tracking. And it’s free.
    Oh and keep up the really really good work with your blog ;-)
    Br, PÃ¥l

  3. Rasmus says:

    I am using the free plan from 14days but will look into clockingit.com. Thanks for the tip :)

  4. Fermin says:

    Hi. I followed you from NicheProfitClassrrom after your help. Congratulations for your blog. It’s awsome. I read your articles and may you give me more information about the link 14days mentioned above? I have 3 projects, one with more of 40+ in the scale of NicheProfit but I still dealing to find the writer.
    Fermin

  5. Rasmus says:

    Hi Fermin
    Congrats on your sales. The 14dayz is simply a hour tracking tool (website) that allows me to track the time spent on the tasks assigned. I have actually just hired a writer myself, so I can finally get on with writing my first ebook.

  6. Phillip says:

    Hi Rasmus,
    Nice post :)

    I have made a short screencast on how I now find staff VERY effectively.
    See here–> http://screencast.com/t/iP2bvzfkW

    A great way to track time done on tasks (that I use) is to use Basecamp for project management and use http://freshbooks.com for tracking time on those projects, Works great!

    Have a wonderful day!

  7. Rasmus says:

    Hey Philip, great tip. Thanks…

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